What did you Catch Today?
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HenryDavid
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Don
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This looks awesome Grem. Can you imagine Pensyvania 400 yrs ago when the Salmon and Steelhead were running wild and Bison, Elk, hare and big cats were common. You have allot more energy than I had at your age. Keep it going, nice photos.
Funny you should say that though. I got a snare in my line and so I started to pull it in manually and there was a small bass on the end. Made me feel like an Ice Fisherman.
I will do so by sending my emissary. I volunteer you as my emissary.
Funny you should say that though. I got a snare in my line and so I started to pull it in manually and there was a small bass on the end. Made me feel like an Ice Fisherman.
Blackcat Outdoors
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Ate beer battered fish and chips at the Rusty Rail brewery last night and caught a buzz from some yummy micro-brews. Does that count? 
Don
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Lol, wrong emmisarial requirement.Ate beer battered fish and chips at the Rusty Rail brewery last night and caught a buzz from some yummy micro-brews. Does that count?
Melvinp
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Heck yeahAte beer battered fish and chips at the Rusty Rail brewery last night and caught a buzz from some yummy micro-brews. Does that count?
Bison and Elk, even grizzly and eastern wolf, no Steelhead or Salmon that I know of. Steelhead where introduced to create the fishery on late 1800s I think. PNW Salmon I’m not sure when. Maybe Atlantic’s where there from the beginning. Browns are known European but brookies aka Char are the only sort of native I think. A-5 can correct my history.
Fun fact, I found an article of my great uncle explaining about eastern wolves being different from timber wolves. I then read Biologists discredited multiple overlapping strains. I read last year they discovered a second wolf in the NE aka Eastern Wolf. Sometimes those old farmers knew more than we give credit for.
truecrimson
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You should read/listen to Coyote America by Dan Flores. He goes into some canid genetics. Most of the different wolves are just small local variations or hybrids, not actually different species or sub species. For example the Red Wolf turns out to be a coyote/wolf hybrid. A lot of canid biologists are now using the term "canid soup" because they are seeing multiple hybridization events between "different" canids.
Solitario Lupo
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Heard when they stocked the coyotes they had hybrid wolf dna.
Solitario Lupo
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Atlantic salmon and lake trout are native to Great Lakes. Brook trout are native to the eastern side.
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If you ever travel to Eastern NC be careful what you say, lol. The 5 year study of extinct red wolves forced on the farmers after breeding Greys with Yotes has turned into a new endangered species. Can’t make that up. They haven’t paid farmers for herd loss to predation. They didn’t wipe them out after 5 years of “studying behavior”. They had them recognized as an actual species. Soooo no coyote hunting in 4-5 counties and collars on all in case someone gets trigger happy. It’s a freaking mess going on 15+ years now I think.
The eastern grey I mentioned was thought to be a subspecies deal. Now recognized as distinctly different dna or something. Forget details but got sort of into it a few years ago after finding the old article/pic of uncle Calvin. Then found they ruled it a subspecies or folklore really. I was amused reading a scientific mag somewhere and seeing the piece on the change of heart.
Santa Rosa was heartbreaking as well. Let’s wipe out unique substrains of elk and Muleys to study lichen. A disease or inbreeding issues can be fixed with isolated populations like that.
NZ is going through something similar last I read. Shooting Tahr and Chamois from helicopters to cut populations/eliminate. OZ tried that with water buffs to but I hear they are found to be a delicacy so it’s meat markets now I think.
Crazy in the name of conservation we’ll wipe out entire populations.
NZ is going through something similar last I read. Shooting Tahr and Chamois from helicopters to cut populations/eliminate. OZ tried that with water buffs to but I hear they are found to be a delicacy so it’s meat markets now I think.
Crazy in the name of conservation we’ll wipe out entire populations.
truecrimson
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I have mixed feelings. I would support killing animals that were preying on livestock, but not animals that weren't. There's a reason the old traditional expression for new doctors was "First do no harm." Intervention often messes things up even if the original intention was those things the road to hell is paved with.
