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truecrimson

truecrimson

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Assholes are everywhere, in every group of people. You have kayakers clogging the ramp and I have grade school dropouts who can't read "No Wake Zone"

As I've said before I try to rig away from the ramp and pull over to it. At Memorial they have a little parking area right off of both boat ramps and I usually use those. Sweet Arrow had 2 sides to the ramp so if I was one the other was available. But I rigged where I parked and then wheeled over. Stoever's Dam doesn't usually have many boats, but I follow the same procedure. None of those places have paddle launches.

Don't think I have ever been in anyone's way. If I was on the ramp for a while for some reason and a boater pulled up I'd just drag off into the grass and get out of the way.

Like Boot, MB3 and Sheila I avoid state parks on holiday weekends. I try to avoid them on all weekends as much as possible but my schedule limits that.

Wow, that was a lot of paddle launches. If I had those I would certainly use them. The only reason I can think of not to is if they are too far from where you want to fish or bird watch or whatever.

The only lake I have ever been to with separate paddle launches is Blue Marsh. They supposedly have about 6, I can only find 3, and 2 of those are ridiculous brutal drags to the water. Like if I have to pull the yak 150 yards down a steep incline or narrow ditch and make a sharp left or fall off an escarpment at the end, that's not really a launch I am going to use. The third launch I have actually located is that tropical rain forest adventure stream I launched at last year. It gets shut down when they draw down the lake for winter. At the Sheidy boat launch I did see some cut in kayak launches. I don't think thy were official, I think people were just launching there to avoid the boat ramps. Until I saw someone using them I thought they were just fishing spots.

I know you shouldn't have to, but maybe saying "Hey guys, I'd like to launch my boat and you're blocking the ramp." might get them to move. Hell, if I saw anything like that I would say something to the guy.
 
Solitario Lupo

Solitario Lupo

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The only problem is that you are not allowed to just go stick your kayak or canoe in anywhere are you’ll be getting a good fine. When I put in I leave the car there for safety reasons like I don’t want a idiot in a big boat coming down on me. If I could I would just stick the yak in anywhere and when I do I gotta keep a look out for the rangers. All in all I’m am forced to buy a launch permit so I am forced to use the boat ramps. Some may still follow the law. ;)
 
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Bootfoot

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Ramp etiquette is simple and it doesn’t matter what your putting in. You rig in the rigging area. You put your vessel in the water in other words get it off the ramp. You go park the Rav4. You come back, get in your vessel and leave the ramp. When you get back you load the vessel and pull off the ramp and go somewhere to unrig. The place to rig and unrig is not the ramp. the place to leave your truck is not the ramp. this is what kayakers don’t get. It’s funny how five guys with big boats can launch, move their boats and trucks off the ramp, park their trucks and come back and leave all in the time it takes a kayaker to pull his PFD out of their Rav4.

I get it A-5, or maybe I don’t get it. It’s kind of lIke bicyclists blocking the road As they ride in a big spandex ladened pack. They do it just because they can and to hell with everyone else on the road or at the ramp.
 
A-5

A-5

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Solitario Lupo said:
The only problem is that you are not allowed to just go stick your kayak or canoe in anywhere are you’ll be getting a good fine. When I put in I leave the car there for safety reasons like I don’t want a idiot in a big boat coming down on me. If I could I would just stick the yak in anywhere and when I do I gotta keep a look out for the rangers. All in all I’m am forced to buy a launch permit so I am forced to use the boat ramps. Some may still follow the law. ;)
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Wait you can’t just put a yak in wherever
 
truecrimson

truecrimson

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A-5 said:
TC I posted 5 launches at Nockamixon that should be utilized before the ramp is used. Yes there are idiot boaters but to park your yaks and leave them not attended drives me nuts
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Yeah, like I said if I had those I would use them. They were beautiful. For them to have all of those paddle launches there have to be a ton of kayakers there and only 4 or 5 were a problem.



Bootfoot said:
Ramp etiquette is simple and it doesn’t matter what your putting in. You rig in the rigging area. You put your vessel in the water in other words get it off the ramp. You go park the Rav4. You come back, get in your vessel and leave the ramp. When you get back you load the vessel and pull off the ramp and go somewhere to unrig. The place to rig and unrig is not the ramp. the place to leave your truck is not the ramp. this is what kayakers don’t get. It’s funny how five guys with big boats can launch, move their boats and trucks off the ramp, park their trucks and come back and leave all in the time it takes a kayaker to pull his PFD out of their Rav4.

I get it A-5, or maybe I don’t get it. It’s kind of lIke bicyclists blocking the road As they ride in a big spandex ladened pack. They do it just because they can and to hell with everyone else on the road or at the ramp.
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No Rav4s involved. They are too week to haul anything, even kayaks. If a Rav 4 was blocking the ramp A-5 would have just sent one of his smaller kids to pick it up and move it out of the way. That's why I tie the yak to the corolla with 50LB braid ;)

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Wait you can’t just put a yak in wherever
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State parks you can get fined for not using the ramps or launching at an unauthorized spot. I also believe you can get fined for blocking the ramp. Not sure about Corp lakes ,or locals, Like Stoever's Dam here, but I would not be surprised if it is the same. At Sheidy at Blue Marsh the places I saw people doing it is along the parking lot for the launch 20 or 30 yards from the launch, so even if you can get a fine I don't think they care there.
 
A-5

A-5

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All the crap that goes on at the park. No way in Hell would anyone say anything about launc a yak over the grass trust me
 
truecrimson

truecrimson

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Depends on the parks. I've had them come up to me and check my fishing license a number of times at Memorial and once at Pinchot. Is Nock a state park? If it is and you run into that again call the rangers. The assholes will get a stern talking to or maybe even a ticket, and next time they will know better. Other people who see it will also get the message.
 
Solitario Lupo

Solitario Lupo

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There’s a couple parks my way wouldn’t even think about going over the hill with a yak and rangers driving by every 10mins. Then there’s a couple just got be watching but over the hill I will go.

I’ve seen people warned for it.
 
truecrimson

truecrimson

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I would do it at Swatara State Park. I've never seen a ranger there. But the launches are really the only places it is feasible anyway. Yaks and canoes are the only things launching there anyway. Most of are trying to get on the water so I never see anyone just sitting on the launch anywhere I typically go.

Now the last place I went there was an old guy talking to some fat guy for a while with the old guys boat and truck on the launch. He did that both before and after fishing. And by launch I mean muddy spot between trees. It was so muddy we had to take some 50 lb braid and use a Corolla to pull his truck out. ;) ;)
 
truecrimson

truecrimson

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I used the "kayak launches" at Blue Marsh's north launch today. I am convinced they are bank fishing spots and kayakers and canoers are just hijacking them. I did see a couple of yakkers using the main launch, which is two sided. They did what I do and rigged on the grass then just straight into the water without spending much time on the ramp.


That Truck is one of the alternate launches, the main regular boat ramps are beyond it. It isn't blocking the way.
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Last night we took the kids out on the lake. I fish girls well do what girls do7D57D07A-7F38-487A-9C9C-C0074D62B2D6.jpeg


Before I get loaded up a truck backs In With yaks. You know the two yaks that need a trailer well anyway. She backs In dumps the yak takes off. I did not take a photo but she’s absolutely from mars. People were ticked off as there were three of us waiting to back in.


THERE ARE TWO SIDES OF THE DOCK.


Seriously she should have her yak license removed permanently.

I backed in around her magical yak and we loaded the boat and we’re off before she got to her more important than everyone else yak.
 
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troutspinner

troutspinner

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I really wish they would make signs at the ramp in big letters, "Do not leave or moor your vessel in the ramp access area".

This past week at Blue Marsh, there was a Pontoon and a boat right next to it in the water working on the pontoon engine, blocking the ramp. While I can appreciate the frustration they may have been having because they do not maintain their boat ;) they could have simply roped / dragged the boat to the front of the dock to be out of everyone's way. But no, it was all about them and they didn't care about the 3 people waiting to exit. Grrrr!
 
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Even if there was giant sigh in big red letters in 4 different languages people would do dumb stuff and not think of everyone else
 
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truecrimson

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A-5 said:
Last night we took the kids out on the lake. I fish girls well do what girls doView attachment 3504


Before I get loaded up a truck backs In With yaks. You know the two yaks that need a trailer well anyway. She backs In dumps the yak takes off. I did not take a photo but she’s absolutely from mars. People were ticked off as there were three of us waiting to back in.


THERE ARE TWO SIDES OF THE DOCK.


Seriously she should have her yak license removed permanently.

I backed in around her magical yak and we loaded the boat and we’re off before she got to her more important than everyone else yak.
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It's a state park, call the WCOs. I'm serious. Those of us loading in the grass and only spending 5 seconds on the ramp want these people taught common courtesy just as much as you do.
 
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